“Just because you're the most visible person in the world, doesn't mean you're the most talented person in the world.”

Welcome back to part two of my conversation with La Roux's Ellie Jackson.

We've already explored the long road to her new album Old Flames, but there's plenty more to unpack.

This time, Ellie talks about the struggle to be recognised as a producer, why she thinks modern pop has lost some of its emotional magic, and how success has become more about being seen than necessarily being heard.

We also get into her ambitions to compose for film and television, and why she's feeling more confident on stage than ever.

Here's part two of La Roux, on RTL Today Radio.

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