In the second part of our two-part confab we learn that Barney is a grazer and is no fan of phoned-in performances

Steps and Barney Artist really do cover a lot of ground in this one. Barney is erudite, generous and smart in his recounting of being confirmed as support for The Gorillaz and in discussing the ups and downs of making music. Steps also, offers up his eldest son as tribute as Barney's allegiance to The Gunners is laid bare.