Here Torre and Steps discuss how to keep things simple and not kicking bandmate's teeth out

The UK may have had a big influence on Torre Florim but it is the bands that last that inspire him and add to the longevity of his band De Staat. In this second part of our two-part chat, the Dutchman clarifies the reasoning behind embarking on an ever-evolving release structure where songs are released according to colour and mood. Red, Yellow, Blue.